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Consequences and the Real World

Q. I was the "Teacher from the Black Lagoon" last year and have been studying
Positive Discipline books this summer in an effort to avoid a return trip to the Lagoon...

It sounds wonderful and very effective and I'm going to implement the class meetings this school year (I teach kindergarten). I've read the Positive Discipline in the Classroom book and wonder about modifications for kindergarten aged children since many of the communication techniques recommended seemed somewhat advanced. Does the Positive Discipline for Preschoolers address this or is more for toddlers? I don't want to waste money on a book that doesn't offer what I'm looking for.

Also, as I change my philosophy to the PD theory, I question the lack of negative consequences because, let's face it, they abound in the world. If I don't do my job at work, I'll be faced with negative consequences. If I speed, that cop won't be giving me a PD lesson but a ticket. Is this really preparing kids for the real world when they grow up? The PD theory sounds wonderful and it would be nice if the world was a nice. But it's not.

Victoria.

Hi Victoria,

The PDC book is better for Elementary than the Preschool book, even though some language modification is needed. You know the communication skills of your students and will know what needs to be modified. However, I know this works for Kindergarten kids because I have been in many Kindergarten classrooms were I almost had to pinch myself as a reminder that these were not miniature sixth graders because they were using the skills and the vocabulary of problem-solving and compliments. We had a group of teachers visit one of Kindergarten classrooms where I was an elementary school counselor, and they were amazed. They told me that they were writing a decision making project and had decided kids wouldn't be ready for decision making until the second grade. They said that decision would have to be changed after what they had seen.

Regarding negative consequences: they will always be out there as a result of our choices. As you say, we speed and we get a ticket. However, if students have learned thinking skills, problem-solving skills, and concern for others, they are less likely to make the kinds of choices that lead to negative consequences. The world may not be completely nice, but it won't be nicer if we perpetuate punishment and rebellion instead of good citizenship.

Following is what one teacher said after learning about class meetings. "If I'd had class meetings when I was going to school I'd have learned about problem-solving and real self-esteem instead of learning how to please the teacher to her face, and then do whatever I could to 'belong and be important' behind her back!"

I think that says it. I don't think negative consequences (poorly disguised punishment imposed by a teacher) prepares kids for a negative world. On the other hand, I don't think teachers and parents should rescue children from experiencing failure when they don't turn in assignments or apply themselves well enough to get passing grades. This isn't something the teacher imposes, but allows. And this can be done with empathy. "I'm so sorry you chose to earn such a low grade. I care about you. Is there anything I can do to help you do better next time, because I have faith in you that you can learn from this experience." This approach makes it difficult for the student to blame the teacher, and really brings the focus to the students choices. Hope your lagoon will be a beautiful blue one this year.

Jane Nelsen
 

 

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